Sir Thomas Green

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Sir Thomas Green
Spouse(s) Joan (or Jane) Fogge
Issue
Maud Green
Anne Green
Father Sir Thomas Greene
Mother Maud Throckmorton
Born c.1461
Died 9 November 1506
Buried St Bartholomew's Church, Greens Norton

Sir Thomas Green (c.1461 – 9 November 1506) was the son of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 1468) and Matilda Throckmorton (d. 1496), grandson of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 9 September 1462) and Philippa de Ferrers (d. 1458). He is best known as the grandfather of Katherine Parr, last wife of Henry VIII.

Family

The Green family was descended from Alfred the Great, King of Wessex.[1] A branch of the family resided at Greens Norton in Northamptonshire from the fourteenth century until the death of the last Sir Thomas Green without male heirs in 1506. In 1355 Sir Henry Green[2] and Thomas, his son, paid 20 shillings for licence to purchase Greens Norton, then known as the manor of Norton Davy. Shortly afterwards a fine was levied of the manor to Sir Henry Green and his heirs in fee-tail. The inquisition post mortem taken after the death of Sir Henry Green's son and heir, Thomas, in 1392, found that the manor and the advowson of the church of St Bartholomew were held of the King in capite by knight service.[3]

Career

Little is known of Sir Thomas Green's life. A brass erected to his memory in the church of St Bartholomew at Greens Norton records that he was the son of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 9 September 1462) and Maud Throckmorton, the daughter of John Throckmorton (d. 12 April 1445), Under-Treasurer of England;[4] the grandson of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 18 January 1462) and Philippa Ferrers, the daughter of Robert Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Chartley (d. 12 or 13 March 1413), and Margaret Despenser, daughter of Edward le Despenser, K.G., 4th Lord le Despenser;[5][6] and the great-grandson of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 14 December 1417) and Mary Talbot (d. 13 April 1434), daughter of Richard Talbot 4th Baron Lord Talbot (d. 8 or 9 September 1396), and Ankaret le Strange (d. 1 June 1413), daughter of John le Strange, 4th Baron Strange (d. 12 May 1361) of Blackmere.[7][8][9][10][11][12] According to Fraser, his traits were those of any man of the time: he was conservative in religion, quarrelsome, conniving, and prone to taking the law into his own hands.[1]

On 6 and 17 November 1505, inquisitions post mortem were taken concerning his lands in which the jurors found that he was 43 years of age at that date, and that his father, Sir Thomas Greene the elder, had died 9 September 1462 seised in fee of certain manors, and that his mother, Maud Greene, had 'entered and intruded into the premises and received all the issues thereof' from the date of his father's death until Michaelmas (29 September) 1482, 'immediately after which feast the said Thomas Grene, the son, entered and intruded without ever suing or obtaining licence from Edward IV or the present king or livery out of the king’s hands, and has received the issues thereof ever since'.[13]

He was sent to the Tower of London about that time on a trumped up charge of treason, and died there on 9 November 1506.[1][14] The circumstances of the treason charge are set forth in Hardying's Chronicle:[15]

Also shortly after the departing of [the earl] Philip, George Neville, Lord of Bergavenny, and Sir Thomas Grene, knight, were suspected to be guilty of the treason that Edmund Pole had wrought, and so cast in prison, but shortly after, when they had purged themselves of that suspicion and crime, they were delivered, albeit this knight, Sir Thomas Grene, died in prison. The other lord, for his soberness of living & true heart that he bare to his prince, was had in greater estimation than ever he was before.

In connection with the treason charge, Green was mentioned in a deposition by an unnamed person who had been urged to enter Edmund de la Pole's service, but who had determined to consult with 'astronomers' as to what would be Pole's ‘likely fortune’ before doing so.[16]

An inquisition post mortem taken on 13 March 1507 found that Green had died seised of the keepership of Whittlewood Forest and the manors of Norton Davy, Boughton, Little Brampton, Pysford, Great Houghton and Great Doddington, and 30 messuages, 600 acres of land, 300 acres of meadow, 1000 acres of pasture, £20 rent and 200 acres of wood in Norton Davy, Boughton, Little Brampton, Pysford, Great Houghton, Great Doddington, Sewell, Potcote, Higham Parva alias Cold Higham, and Middleton, and that his heirs were his two daughters, Anne Greene, aged 17 years and more, and Maud Green, aged 13 years and more.[17]

The last of his line, he left two motherless daughters. As he had no male heirs, his estates passed to the Parr and Vaux families, into which his two daughters married.[1]

Marriage and issue

Greene married Joan (or Jane) Fogge (born c. 1466), the daughter of Sir John Fogge. Sir John Fogge married twice. His first wife was Alice de Criol or Kyriell, daughter of the Yorkist soldier Sir Thomas de Criol of Westenhanger Castle, beheaded after the Second Battle of St Albans by order of Margaret of Anjou.[18][19][20] By Alice de Criol, Fogge had a son and heir, John Fogge (d.1501).[21][22][23]

Fogge's second wife, whom he married by 1458, was Alice Haute or Hawte (born circa 1444), the daughter of Sir William Haute (d.1464) of Bishopsborne, Kent, and Joan Woodville, daughter of Richard Woodville.[24][25] Richard Woodville was also the father of Richard Woodville, 1st Earl Rivers, and the grandfather of Elizabeth Woodville,[25][22] and Fogge's second wife, Alice Haute was thus a first cousin of the Queen, and served at court as one of her ladies-in-waiting during the 1460s.[26] According to Horrox, Alice Haute was likely the mother of Sir John Fogge's second son, Thomas Fogge, and of the three daughters, Anne, Elisabeth, and Margaret, mentioned in Sir John Fogge's will. It is not known with certainty which of Sir John Fogge's two wives was the mother of Joan Fogge. Joan is not mentioned by Horrox, not are she, her husband, Sir Thomas Greene, or their children, mentioned in Sir John Fogge's will as transcribed by Pearman.[22][27]

By Joan Fogge, Sir Thomas Greene had two daughters:[28]

Ancestry

Family of Sir Thomas Green
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 16. Sir Thomas Greene[lower-roman 2]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 8. Sir Thomas Greene, Sheriff of Northampton[lower-roman 1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 17. Margery Mablethorpe[lower-roman 2]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 4. Sir Thomas Greene[lower-roman 1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 18. Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Baron Talbot, Baron de Blackmere[lower-roman 2]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 9. Mary Talbot[lower-roman 1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 19. Ankaret le Strange[lower-roman 2]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 2. Sir Thomas Greene[lower-roman 1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 20. John de Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers of Chartley[lower-roman 5]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 10. Robert de Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Chartley[lower-roman 4]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 21. Elizabeth de Stafford[lower-roman 5]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 5. Philippe Ferrers[lower-roman 3]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 22. Edward le Despencer, 1st Baron le Despencer[lower-roman 4]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 11. Margaret Despenser[lower-roman 4]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 23. Elizabeth de Burghersh, 3rd Baroness Burghersh[lower-roman 4]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 1. Sir Thomas Greene
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 24. John Throckmorton
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 12. Thomas Throckmorton
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 25. Lucy Coleman
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 6. Sir John Throckmorton[lower-roman 6]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 26. Sir Alexander Besford
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 13. Agnes Besford
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 27. Beatrice Thorndon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 3. Maud Throckmorton[lower-roman 1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 28. William de Spineto
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 14. Sir Guy de Spineto
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 29. Alice d. Bruley (Burley)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 7. Eleanor de la Spine[lower-roman 6]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 30. John Holt
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 15. Katherine Holt
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 31. Eleanor Durvassal
 
 
 
 
 
 
Notes
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 95.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II, p. 412
  3. ↑ Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 129; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 184; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 36.
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families (Royal Ancestry). Genealogical Publishing Company (30 June 2004).
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 313-315
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 2416.

Notes

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Fraser, Antonia. The Wives of Henry VIII. Vintage Publishing, 30 November 1993. Chapter: Catherine Parr.
  2. ↑ According to Fraser, Sir Henry Green and his wife, Katherine Drayton, were ancestors of the pioneer settler Anne Hutchinson, born Anne Marbury.
  3. ↑ Whellan 1874, pp. 516-17.
  4. ↑ Carpenter 2004.
  5. ↑ Richardson II 2011, pp. 159-60, 260-1.
  6. ↑ Richardson states that she was Margaret le Despenser, daughter of Edward le Despenser, 4th Baron le Despenser.
  7. ↑ Richardson I 2011, pp. 209-11.
  8. ↑ Richardson II 2011, pp. 260-1.
  9. ↑ Richardson IV 2011, pp. 166-9.
  10. ↑ Ellecombe 1840, p. 62.
  11. ↑ Brass Rubbings Collection, Ashmolean Museum of Art and Archaeology, University of Oxford Retrieved 28 September 2013.
  12. ↑ 'Parishes: Carshalton', A History of the County of Surrey: Volume 4 (1912), pp. 178-188 Retrieved 28 September 2013.
  13. ↑ Evans 1955, pp. 514, 582.
  14. ↑ Evans 1955, p. 163.
  15. ↑ Ellis 1812, p. 588.
  16. ↑ Gairdner 1861, p. 226.
  17. ↑ Evans 1955, pp. 163-4.
  18. ↑ Pearman 1868, p. 25.
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  21. ↑ T.G.F. 1863, p. 124.
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 Horrox 2004.
  23. ↑ Richardson III 2011, p. 381.
  24. ↑ Adams 1986, p. 103.
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 Fleming 2004.
  26. ↑ Harris 2002, p. 218.
  27. ↑ Pearman 1868, p. 123.
  28. ↑ 28.0 28.1 Richardson III 2011, pp. 290-1.
  29. ↑ Weir, Alison. Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London: The Bodley Head, 1999), p. 154.

References

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Further reading

  • Browning, Charles Henry. Americans of royal descent: A collection of genealogies of American families whose lineage is traced to the legitimate issue of kings. Porter & Costes, 1891, p. 259.

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