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Powers & Principalities, Episode 010
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Obamacare, its repeal and the Medical Industrial Complex.
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00:00 [Music] 00:38 [Music] 00:42 so we're back how you don't just find 00:45 Tim Swick pleasure to hear your voice 00:47 great to talk to you tonight we want to 00:51 discuss Obamacare it's passing it's 00:55 possible repeal and it's possible 00:57 replacement and sort of the politics of 00:59 health care in the medical industrial 01:01 complex so how do you wanna get into 01:02 this well let me just ask you what is 01:06 Obamacare the Affordable Health Care 01:09 program that we now have I mean can I 01:13 mean I'll say the truth I have spent a 01:15 lot of time trying to understand it and 01:17 I literally am further away now from 01:21 understanding what the hell the thing is 01:22 then when I started so I'm just can you 01:25 help us by just clarifying what actually 01:29 has has occurred with the passage of the 01:34 law that created Obamacare whether two 01:37 stages here one is who wrote the law and 01:42 is written by the insurance company by 01:43 the industry itself in fact them the 01:48 author of it really was leading lives 01:51 Fowler who was a vice president with 01:53 wellpoint and insurance outfit and she 01:56 worked with Max Baucus Max Baucus 01:58 senator Max Baucus via X he praised her 02:00 from well of the Senate saying she wrote 02:02 the laws she was the point of a person 02:05 for this and she dedicated the health 02:07 care reform she's a lobbyist her vice 02:09 president really a lobbyist an agent for 02:11 the insurance industry so he felt 02:14 nothing about the individual like either 02:15 max or this lady what are they where do 02:18 they come from whether with their 02:19 background I mean are they Patriots or 02:22 who are these people 02:23 well a just a typical Democratic senator 02:25 you know nothing he just you know he'll 02:30 he'll lead the Senate wouldn't he won't 02:33 leave on his feet to leave on his back 02:34 probably I am and Liz Fowler well she 02:38 just she should rub this revolving door 02:40 he look at her career she's you know in 02:44 and out of government but you're always 02:45 representing interest of the insurance 02:46 and the insurance industry particularly 02:48 a health insurance industry and after 02:51 she should have wrote the law and held 02:54 it helped it pass the Senate she then 02:58 became the White House director of 03:01 implementation now I think she's back my 03:04 notes here she's back now at let's see 03:08 here I know it's here uh yeah here we go 03:19 um yeah I never is that here yeah this 03:26 fell yeah Liz Fowler 03:28 she should be revolving around health 03:30 insurance lobbying machine and 03:31 government officials she is now she 03:35 became the special assistant to the 03:36 president for health care and economic 03:37 policy at the National Economic Council 03:39 after she helped the local law that 03:43 became Obamacare the Affordable Care Act 03:45 Care Act um she is now at Johnson & 03:49 Johnson government affairs Paul scoop 03:52 she's a lobbyist again what a shock yeah 03:56 well you know what it does it mandated 03:58 well firstly a mandated that everyone 04:00 get health insurance and and certain 04:03 standards that Obamacare created meaning 04:05 a lot of people had existing policies I 04:07 myself had her head up on an existing 04:09 policy that high deductible relatively 04:11 affordable for my family and my my 04:13 premiums tripled because the government 04:16 determined my program my policy wasn't 04:18 good enough so I immediately send my so 04:22 I don't spend $200 a month on health 04:24 care my family's healthy I don't need 04:26 doctors no thank you 04:28 so I opted out through a co-op that was 04:32 that the thank you that there was a 04:34 provisional law allowed for that so I'm 04:36 not you know forking over 1200 of them 04:38 are insurance for health care that I 04:40 don't use but the what it did was it 04:46 mandated as sort of this mandate 04:48 evidence which was original Republican 04:50 plan back in the 90s to counter Hillary 04:52 care that's the ask Rebecca early 04:53 nineties believed was Newt Gingrich and 04:55 the Heritage Foundation which first 04:58 floated the idea of mandated health 04:59 insurance everyone in a plan so that's 05:04 what that's what's done of course it's 05:06 caused people's health premiums to 05:08 skyrocket suppose taxes on other 05:11 people's health plans are so go plated 05:14 and it's a big except it's a big gift of 05:18 the insurance industry and it's not 05:20 surprising that it was loose Tyler who 05:22 who wrote wrote much of the law she's a 05:25 lobbyist in a and a vice president for a 05:28 for an insurance company but that was 05:31 passing but then there was the 05:33 litigation of course when it passed law 05:35 as a question whether this thing was 05:36 constitutional of course it really isn't 05:37 but nevertheless the Supreme Court found 05:41 a way to find a constitutional it did 05:43 was throughout it's a debate on Capitol 05:45 Hill the Obama administration claimed 05:47 that a bomb a care it's a the fines or 05:52 fees that it imposed was not a tax and 05:55 they justified their the law under 05:58 interstate commerce that old excuse they 06:02 used to do everything interstate 06:03 commerce but nevertheless when this 06:06 agreement the supreme court had ruled 06:07 five before that was indeed 06:09 constitutional but Justice Roberts said 06:13 it's a tax so he changed the law he 06:17 rewrote the law I comfortable in not not 06:20 a fee or fine it's a tax thus making it 06:24 constitutional in the eyes of the 06:25 Supreme Court so that more legal 06:27 sophistry to justify big government 06:29 nothing new I guess you could say but 06:32 that raises another question because 06:34 there is a clause in the Constitution 06:37 that says that all spending bills let's 06:41 begin in the house an Obamacare began in 06:44 the Senate so it's unconstitutional at 06:46 that point I don't think that will eat 06:48 yet to be litigated aha I'm getting just 06:54 hot under the collar let me describe 06:57 different and it's that you know they 06:59 call it attack but the end the problem 07:02 is 07:02 that the Constitution its article 1 07:07 section 7 Clause 1 so the origination 07:09 clause it's all bills for raising 07:11 revenue shall originate in the House of 07:13 Representatives but the Senate may 07:15 propose to concur with amendments as on 07:18 other bills so if it is indeed a tax 07:20 which somehow these Supreme Court 07:23 magically made it a tax even though the 07:25 letter the language of law did not call 07:27 it attacks it is still unconstitutional 07:30 because of the Obamacare originated in 07:32 the Senate and if it is a tax is a 07:34 revenue bill and it must originate in 07:37 the house so they have to if they were 07:39 to follow the Constitution they should 07:41 scrap the law Constitution and try again 07:44 in the house but then again you know 07:46 well yeah but just back up I mean I want 07:50 to understand how they can shoehorn 07:54 forcing someone to buy a product you 07:59 know it somehow is a tax I mean it 08:02 doesn't even meet the the coherent 08:05 definition of what a tax is no tax is a 08:09 extraction not a mandate to buy 08:13 something it's boasted money that goes 08:15 to the government so just the whole the 08:19 whole concept of the mandatory nature of 08:23 it to me just is just badly 08:27 unconstitutional and it goes along with 08:30 all the other unconstitutional things 08:32 that occur all the time like for example 08:36 getting groped and radiated at the 08:39 airports right I mean the Constitution 08:42 says no unreasonable search or seizure 08:46 and when they search 100% of the people 08:50 that there's no definition of 08:53 unreasonable that that doesn't fit into 08:55 so you know the fact that they were able 08:59 to waste this on the American people it 09:02 shouldn't be a surprise intamin because 09:05 basically what we're looking at is just 09:07 the dismantling of the Constitution one 09:10 behavior set at a time II it's all part 09:15 of this 09:16 it's a fascist care and it's all part of 09:17 getting one into the matrix because 09:20 they're all monitored and controlled 09:22 also I think include provisions of 09:24 electronic medical records which is a 09:27 problem itself there's a problem of 09:29 where these records can be stored in the 09:30 cloud all right that's great security 09:34 and it's all done in the name of 09:35 efficiency right that's great that's 09:38 efficient yet but the course do we have 09:41 the politics of the repeal where Chris 09:43 Donald Trump campaigned on getting rid 09:45 of it and the course that was sort of an 09:47 idea the Republicans also now the 09:48 Republicans can't seem to muster the 09:49 votes to get rid of it without coming 09:51 some sort of replace we know we you know 09:53 we were better off without it so why 09:55 bother with replacement if it's 09:57 unconstitutional nor there is or are 09:59 there any arguments on Capitol Hill 10:00 regarding the absurdity of the Supreme 10:02 Court's decision that it is indeed 10:04 unconstitutional the obvious you know 10:06 the obvious situation where you know 10:09 it's an unconstitutional law because you 10:12 know since it was declared a tax in the 10:15 house has to I mean I'm not a cop I'm 10:17 not a lawyer but I can I can read I've 10:20 got a copy of the Constitution right 10:23 here and I don't see ended it health 10:24 care anywhere I mean that yeah would not 10:27 have to be a an amendment you know it's 10:30 just such a bizarre I'm generally know 10:33 like general welfare interstate Clyde 10:35 and blah blah blah yeah you'd have to to 10:38 make it constitutional you have to 10:39 create a UH an amendment man I'd like to 10:42 see that pass good luck with that I mean 10:45 the population would just they would 10:47 reject it in every single state but you 10:51 know I just wanted to point something 10:52 out you know you if you would suggested 10:55 we we take on Obamacare some time ago 10:59 and we didn't know that this would be 11:03 the week that the Republicans would 11:05 faceplant in terms of getting rid of it 11:07 yeah Miquel net was a key vote 11:09 yeah McCain well the whole lot of them 11:13 are just as a collection the settlement 11:16 in is if the largest floating thing in 11:20 the cesspool but um the the fact is is 11:24 that you know and I made this point many 11:28 times Tim is 11:29 if you're an oligarch or a secret 11:33 society of oligarchs and you want 11:35 political power you can't control one 11:39 political party and this is completely 11:41 absurd you have to control both mm-hmm 11:44 there's no absolutely no no reason in 11:47 the world to try to go out and control 11:50 one political party it would be the 11:51 stupidest thing that any folk art has 11:55 done since Caligula made his horse 11:58 governor of Sicily I mean it's just too 12:01 stupid even to consider so they don't do 12:03 that 12:04 that's what they tell the public right 12:07 now you get this Oleg arc is a big 12:10 Republican a dis Oleg arc you know the 12:13 cock brothers this Oleg arc is a 12:15 left-winger Soros this is ridiculous 12:18 they are unified and they control both 12:22 parties so that when the Republicans you 12:25 know say oh well both rods and we're 12:27 going to repeal Obamacare and then they 12:30 lose because McCain won't deliver the 12:32 vote well why be surprised this is just 12:36 a an evidence piece to show you that 12:41 your little political party the 12:43 Republicans are in fact part of a larger 12:47 system that is controlled by the 12:49 oligarchs by the society that's we're 12:51 looking at yeah and health care itself 12:55 which structures is there to to harvest 12:59 you drain you yeah make you sicker you 13:04 know and again it's a it's you you see 13:11 the Republicans now they're all debating 13:12 about you know what's going to replace 13:14 it and what about previous and 13:15 conditions but wait a second we're 13:16 talking about insurance right I mean 13:18 insurance you don't you can't get a 13:20 pre-existing condition for your house 13:21 after it burns down can't go inside my 13:23 house burned down I want to be covered 13:24 now you're there kind of you're mixing 13:28 two different things if you want to have 13:29 a program for welfare for people who are 13:32 indigent you need ok argue or argued on 13:34 that basis we'll go from there 13:35 but don't call it insurance it's not 13:37 insurance at that point every three and 13:40 if it's not um 13:42 I mean even there you know you have the 13:45 semantical question about the word 13:46 insurance I mean they they use it but 13:49 basically it's just just a ripoff 13:52 you know they you know created the 13:55 situation where they say we've expanded 13:57 health care to 30 million people mmm 14:02 right yeah except who's picking up the 14:04 tab they they didn't have a way to fund 14:07 it so they pushed all of this into the 14:09 private sector right yeah now that you 14:11 shouldn't kiddies are growing belly out 14:13 they can't pay fried now all these 14:14 companies that are trying to make sense 14:17 nothing or going belly-up and now these 14:21 thirty million people I how much better 14:24 off are they right see this is the where 14:27 I really like to have someone who has 14:30 taxes to real data get in here because 14:32 the fact is poor people in the United 14:37 States use the emergency room right if 14:40 they use it at all I'm going to just 14:44 give an example of you know of how kind 14:50 of absurd the the medical perspective it 14:52 this is a joke and it's slightly 14:54 off-color but like you'll understand the 14:56 point of it a health care worker came to 14:59 a building and he found all the people 15:03 in working with sharing the same needle 15:05 and he goes gosh darn it guys I told you 15:09 that you're going to get aids and one of 15:13 them one of the heroine addicts looked 15:14 up and he goes what are you talking 15:15 about we're all wearing condoms yeah so 15:22 so you see my point is that that so you 15:24 have like you know basically the you 15:27 have the emergency room for four people 15:30 and then beneath that you have chaos 15:33 because in many instances you have 15:35 opiate addiction mm-hmm there's just no 15:38 way that you can shoehorn you know 15:41 BlueShield into the life of a heroin 15:44 addict it's just ridiculous you know and 15:48 so so the idea that now you've got them 15:50 covered this is just a basically a 15:56 mandate and and some monies moving 15:59 around but inside the actual world where 16:03 these people's health is you know is it 16:06 a in a state you can judge there isn't 16:09 any improvement to these people's health 16:11 now if there's no money yeah they're the 16:15 idea that that that this is somehow 16:18 going to help the the health of the 16:21 American people it's just I mean timid 16:24 it makes me discouraged that there are 16:26 people so stupid to even consider that 16:29 possibility it's just not going to 16:31 change anything you're going to see in 16:33 ten years whatever is left of American 16:35 health care um I'm sure there'll be some 16:38 gigantic system in place but it'll be 16:40 just as crap as it was um you know five 16:44 years ago and all of the health 16:46 statistics will also be crap and that's 16:49 just what what we've got there this is 16:51 this this whole thing is you know and I 16:54 I don't want to waylay you but I mean 16:58 basically I just think that what this 17:01 all ends up with is single-payer now 17:04 yeah yeah because the system is going to 17:06 collapse I mean if you look at Medicare 17:08 and you know that the trajectories of 17:10 like cost of the thing there's no way 17:13 this any of the the trajectories of 17:16 costs that we have established to our 17:19 health care can be maintained give us as 17:21 equity act that claret of pleasant land 17:24 we talked about last week yeah if 17:27 overloading the systems justify exactly 17:29 thing you know till that that is your s 17:31 or etiquette mean it's deliberately 17:33 overloading the system to precipitate 17:35 the collapse and then they'll be there 17:38 with single-payer now there's nothing 17:41 wrong don't get me wrong I mean 17:42 single-payer I feel the same way dot 17:44 single-pair as I do about you know free 17:48 enterprise or socialism I mean I think 17:51 almost all of these expressions are um 17:54 you know describing things which are not 17:58 really important yeah what's important 18:00 is who controls the political and 18:02 economic reality that's what's important 18:05 if you have someone who is really has 18:07 the the 18:09 wellbeing of the population in mind 18:12 single-payer probably would be just fine 18:15 under that person's control I'm sure you 18:16 could make it work so it would free 18:19 enterprise right if it's the money 18:22 production and and the government laws 18:24 and things are under control of people 18:26 that really want the best for the public 18:28 tonight a moral order 18:29 yeah moral yeah yeah yeah and but the 18:32 problem is we've got a secret society 18:35 that wants basically a world control in 18:37 genocide and so they can say whatever 18:41 they want on they can call it you know 18:43 Obamacare they can call it single-payer 18:45 it can call it the animal I don't know 18:48 that free enterprise it's irrelevant 18:50 those are just words the problem is 18:53 who's controlling the thing and in our 18:56 case I was listening earlier today to 19:00 the really excellent interview did with 19:02 April Bowden and I would hope everyone 19:07 would attend that interview that was 19:09 excellent and I mean April just comes 19:13 across as an absolutely clear minded and 19:16 sincere individual has really done a lot 19:18 of research and you know at one point 19:21 she was talking about basically someone 19:23 who was a whistleblower a doctor and a 19:27 researcher who had been murdered and she 19:29 didn't really want to go into details 19:31 she just said look I have to tell 19:33 everyone that the people that are 19:34 controlling this thing or not boyscout 19:37 right she was clearly making the case 19:39 that the guy had been rubbed out you 19:41 know because a of is our status is a 19:43 whistle and I would just say that her 19:50 position is really what you need to know 19:53 about Obamacare we say that's all of the 19:56 details and the money goes here and 19:58 there and this insurance companies going 20:00 out of business and the government picks 20:01 that's all you know okay 20:03 the system is insane and it's going to 20:06 collapse that's clicker 20:07 but what April points out is there's 20:10 malevolence evil and that's really what 20:15 the sickness is it isn't the money it 20:17 isn't the the law or the technicalities 20:19 it 20:20 the damn evil that's controlling all 20:23 this and that's why it's going to end up 20:25 really bad and that's why in my opinion 20:27 Tim this is just a step toward a 20:31 single-payer but under the control of a 20:34 single malevolent you know oligarchic 20:38 society mm-hmm well that's because 20:41 though moving that direction if you look 20:42 followed the trajectory it started with 20:44 Social Security 1935 yeah then in the 20:49 1960s you get Medicare Medicaid in the 20:53 1990s you have the Kennedy case and bomb 20:56 which was doled out middle class health 20:59 care welfare to to Americans and this is 21:03 all moving toward then you could get 21:04 Hillary Clinton's attempt in the 90s 21:08 which then spawned 21:10 like I said spawn this nation of 21:11 mandated coverage as a reaction to it so 21:14 it's a dialectic that's being played out 21:16 here and then all of a sudden you have 21:18 this clamoring when Obama becomes 21:19 president for the Affordable Care Act to 21:21 address a crisis they don't none of them 21:24 address the problem so the crisis like 21:25 third party reimbursement the finances 21:27 of it all there's no intention of 21:28 addressing that again they want to 21:30 overload the system when it collectivise 21:31 it and slave everybody that's these are 21:34 and people like need characters like Liz 21:36 Fowler they're just feeding at the 21:38 trough they don't they're not in the 21:40 inner circle they're not 33rd degree 21:41 Mason 21:42 they're just cashing in the meantime and 21:44 useful idiots yeah who has the morality 21:47 of a lizard yeah yeah I mean that's 21:51 that's what Liz Fowler is she's she 21:53 doesn't really understand what she's 21:55 participating in no none of these people 21:58 do even even they the idiots in Congress 22:01 you know it's like the guy that is my 22:03 Congress person I mean I you know 22:07 sweetest guy imaginable and he just 22:09 doesn't have the intellectual breadth of 22:11 a stone it has no idea what's going he's 22:14 just there to vote YES for war you know 22:19 it know about this stuff until this is 22:22 this is our role our role is to alert 22:26 the citizenry that what they're looking 22:28 at is just a giant swirling cesspool of 22:32 sofa Surrey none of this is real 22:34 so I mean to me the Obamacare health 22:38 system it basically like like a Disney 22:43 movie or something it has just 22:45 absolutely no connection to reality at 22:48 all it's just there the elements are 22:51 there just to confuse people we know I 22:54 mean who in the hell knows what is 22:56 inside of the damn thing anyway even the 22:58 insurance companies can't figure the 23:00 thing out right as you remember Nancy 23:01 Pelosi we have to pay I don't get it but 23:05 I mean you know that they're going to 23:06 make a lot of money on it because 23:08 because Sally wrote it for them but you 23:10 also know that that Nancy Pelosi 23:13 statements are an opportunity a great 23:15 rejoinder and that would be well what 23:18 are you replace it with well we'll know 23:21 about that when we repeal it I made from 23:23 capacitive about knowing what's in it 23:24 can't repeal it without worrying about 23:26 what's going to happen afterwards I mean 23:27 she's right exactly right we if we get 23:30 read it to pass but they don't need to 23:31 read it to repeal you repeat please need 23:35 to read can't even read anyway most 23:36 these people can the Congress people are 23:38 the ones that aren't inside the deal are 23:39 just too stupid to read I think or never 23:41 they have aids that are provided for 23:44 them by the CIA but I mean yeah they 23:47 don't they have a clue but what's going 23:49 on and this thing and they and they if 23:51 they argue if they argue about well all 23:53 of these poor people is forty million 23:55 people right that what they did yeah and 23:59 and now they do and so there's this 24:01 moral you know elevation to our nation 24:04 as if being on a list is going to 24:06 translate into actual quality 24:08 intraocular medical aid it's just 24:10 completely insane it just it's just like 24:12 it's like well why didn't we just 24:14 convert them all the Saints and just say 24:16 they're in happen 24:16 yeah it's it that's what it's like I 24:19 mean because that's about as much 24:21 reality or have we we have a UFO to take 24:24 them to planet Nirvana there's word that 24:27 is not a huge portion let's leave 24:29 million Americans are young people who 24:31 have no need for health care medical 24:33 care of course well that way they need 24:36 for their that work for a healthy person 24:39 the last thing in the world want is 24:41 introduce them to the medical system I 24:43 mean the thing it's just a complete it 24:46 is is 24:47 other death yes yeah I mean I I mean I 24:51 we have like a hospital nearby and I 24:55 don't a name it did probably soothe me 24:57 but I mean just every person I know that 24:59 goes in there either dies comes out with 25:01 a staph infection that last rest of 25:03 their life they're just dropping like 25:06 flies I mean it is just a tip disturb 25:09 cesspool they have nothing to offer you 25:11 they've got chemicals that don't do 25:13 anything to make you and turn you into a 25:15 seahorse or if they can give you Ricky H 25:18 they're Kepler chemotherapy for cancer 25:21 which which just makes you sick and 25:24 stupid and then Don ego and they going 25:27 in for treatment from diabetes you go 25:30 down to the cafeteria the basement in 25:31 the botanist Frank get a giant soda you 25:34 know they give you an organic you know 25:36 he coca-cola with a you know like 25:39 artificial ice cream on top but yeah I 25:41 mean I was looking I was there then I 25:44 was looking at the doctor even the 25:45 doctors look like Pillsbury Doughboy me 25:48 he'll look like ready to go to diabetes 25:50 two or three you know I mean they're 25:52 just it's a complete cessful it's really 25:55 I mean it's just a joke you know it's 25:58 just as a complete joke there isn't 26:02 enough real medicine going on inside the 26:06 health care even bother with I would 26:08 really no I really say to pay so this is 26:10 what my opinion on Obamacare I would 26:13 just tell people look organize among 26:15 yourselves but your own health care well 26:17 that's a big done I mean does that 26:19 person ever space things where you just 26:21 pool together yeah 26:22 it's catastrophic it's like if something 26:24 comes up and you make it well I mean I'm 26:26 not no I'm not talking about being in 26:27 the medical system 26:28 I'm just forget all that just forget 26:29 hospital I mean Tim this is where I'm at 26:32 I'm at risk of heart attack right my 26:35 father grandpa great a heart attack so 26:38 what am I going to do have a heart 26:39 attack well I have a little nutritional 26:43 supplement that's designed to make you 26:46 better if you have art attack yeah I 26:48 wouldn't go in I mean I'm telling you I 26:50 I know this just sounds completely crazy 26:53 but I wouldn't go in because I mean I 26:56 know the statistics on like bypass 26:59 operations 27:01 a total joke the chemicals they give you 27:04 I think our frankly would do more harm 27:06 than good 27:07 they have no nutritional advice or 27:09 anything at all they don't even need 27:10 really faculty at my opinion understand 27:12 what heart attack is and so why why 27:15 would I go when I'm feeling bad with a 27:17 heart attack to a building that is 27:20 infested with the staph infection which 27:23 you which if you can track you have to 27:25 take antibiotics for the rest of your 27:27 life yeah I mean if I had a heart attack 27:29 the last place in the world I want to go 27:31 to what if it didn't seem hard I mean 27:33 just crazy 27:34 XO sorry now I if I am if I break a bone 27:39 or if I need stitches 27:41 I'll go to the they have like what's 27:43 called a many Center yeah I there's a 27:46 doctor Urgent Care that's telling what 27:49 you want about 40 bucks and you're out 27:51 the door that that's what that's it so 27:53 that what I'm saying is till Obamacare 27:57 is sort of like that the cherry on the 28:00 ice cream sundae II it is just the last 28:05 straw in my opinion it is now made you 28:09 know you've got the health services are 28:12 basically going to hurt you 28:14 more often than help you and to get them 28:17 you have to go through this labyrinth of 28:20 complexity and spend a whole bunch of 28:22 money you know I mean they just don't 28:27 have anything to offer you know just 28:29 drop out of the system I don't know how 28:32 to legally you know to to advise people 28:34 here you know as far as well you know 28:36 what do you so I know allotted they're 28:38 mandated but um I I would really like to 28:43 see like a constitutional attempt by 28:45 some small business groups to say you 28:47 know we're going to drop out of 28:50 Obamacare and we're going to tell our 28:53 our employees that in our opinion the 28:57 american medical system is is a 29:00 combination of malevolence and 29:01 incompetence and we want them to drop 29:04 out and instead we're going to give them 29:06 an hour every week to organize and see 29:08 what they can do among themselves 29:09 without trying to have better out yeah 29:11 yeah 29:13 an article by Joaquin Agha peon and by 29:19 Karma and he says that the what's wrong 29:26 with America is what's wrong with Big 29:27 Pharma and what's wrong with Big 29:29 Pharma's it's wrong with America 29:30 the circular reality is aimed to be 29:32 thoroughly covered in this presentation 29:34 this is the story of how Big Pharma 29:36 seeks enormous profits over the health 29:38 and well-being of the humans it serves 29:40 and how big drug companies invasively 29:42 corrupted the way the health care 29:43 industry delivers its vital services 29:45 this is neither a new or an anemic story 29:48 in fact the story of Big Pharma it's 29:49 exact same story of hell big government 29:52 big oil big Agra can be giants like 29:54 Monsanto have come to power the 29:55 controlling shareholders of all these 29:57 major industries are one of the same big 29:59 money belonging to global central 30:01 banking cabal owned and operated all the 30:03 fortune 500 companies in addition to 30:05 virtually all national governments on 30:07 earth the rockefeller privatized health 30:09 care in the United States back in 30:10 nineteen thirties as financed and 30:12 largely influenced both Healthcare and 30:14 Big Pharma ever since so we're getting 30:16 into sort of m---eleven you talk about 30:17 the middle of into the system we're 30:18 talking about the medical industrial 30:20 complex which got its start kind of 30:23 developed out of the petroleum industry 30:24 the history of the Rockefeller they took 30:25 it over back in the early 20th century 30:27 with the flexion report under the guise 30:30 of quality raising quality index premium 30:33 also raising a cadre of experts or 30:36 technicians men in white coats and they 30:40 stifle all its all the time and and and 30:42 there is no question in my mind that 30:45 this has all been done as part of the 30:48 brave new world project where what they 30:51 want to end up with is just as actually 30:53 described they want a stratification 30:55 where at the bottom there people are too 30:57 stupid do anything other than menial 30:59 jobs in the middle they can be sex 31:02 slaves there they can't say no to 31:04 anything they're too docile at the top 31:07 everybody is in a free-for-all of you 31:10 know an orgy of an exploitation on the 31:13 lower caste I mean that's that's what 31:15 we're dealing with and one of the ways 31:17 they're trying to get there is through 31:18 this medical stuff um you know I I mean 31:23 I I just I hate to say this because I 31:26 know there are people out there 31:27 the thing that real medical issue 31:29 Israeli and they have a real 31:32 relationship with some kind of medical 31:34 provider in the United States and 31:36 they're saying well gee Joe if you were 31:38 in my shoes you know you wouldn't want 31:41 to stop the treatment or this or that I 31:43 can't really speak to specific instances 31:47 I can just be to the general situation 31:50 and the general situation is get the 31:53 hell out of the system right now the 31:55 people that are running the damn thing 31:57 are going to try to turn me I mean the 32:00 real production the real truth about 32:04 what the medical system is wanting to do 32:07 is an autistic child that's the goal you 32:11 see that's what they're doing and that's 32:15 that's the brave new world you know you 32:17 you were discussing with with April 32:23 Bowden the idea that you know now 32:26 they're there the military are finding 32:29 roles right for the autistic yeah 32:33 right because they're so obedient right 32:35 well you'll see that's going to be a 32:37 growth industry Tim as we go forward 32:39 that that's you'll see better believe 32:43 that's going to be where you're going to 32:44 see your increases in employment because 32:46 they are definitely organizing us 32:52 neurologically into a caste system and 32:55 so you're going to see just more and 32:57 more autism I mean I read this one 33:01 doctor who was saying that by 2030 their 33:05 behalf the children would be have some 33:06 degrees of autism and this is going to 33:09 plug right into docility obedience easy 33:13 to condition you know in other words 33:16 that that's really what you know what's 33:18 going on here you know I sent you a link 33:21 to a potential show topic of that we 33:26 might discuss about how they they just 33:29 realized that sperm count in Japanese 33:33 and Europeans is down 60% 60% right and 33:37 this is just in the last 50 years they 33:40 don't I mean if they go 33:41 that further it even be more I had been 33:43 using the number 50% because I that was 33:47 a number I thought I could defend I 33:50 looked at the recent studies and it's 33:53 just far worse than I thought 33:54 he far far worse so you're not you know 33:58 you're not going to be having many 34:00 children right look at the Georgia 34:03 Guidestones with the number of people 34:04 they want on the planet 400 million so 34:07 you're going to you're going to have a 34:08 real reduction in in children and you're 34:13 going to have a large fraction of them 34:15 as autistic and just remember one thing 34:18 one thing autism is simply a point on 34:23 the IQ spectrum and and when you start 34:26 seeing lots of autistic kids you're also 34:29 going to see a reduction in kids that 34:32 are really brilliant right it's going to 34:35 be they're going to be hand in hand 34:36 these are not distinct phenomena all one 34:39 bell curve system and so they are 34:42 definitely moving this to extinction and 34:45 in the meantime they're making us more 34:46 and more stupid and I'm sorry I didn't 34:49 mean to get quite so uh depressing but 34:54 that's definitely honest healing and I 34:56 just think Obamacare is you know the 34:59 confusion the incapacity to stop that no 35:02 one understands that the insurance 35:04 companies seem to be benefiting the 35:06 health care is not getting better it's 35:07 just a complete school it would make no 35:10 sense as an actual political action yeah 35:15 but it only makes sense if you plug it 35:17 into you know the brave new world I do 35:20 well I'm developing the malevolence is 35:23 clearly there if you look at it this 35:24 question who is directed at we do know 35:27 that vaccine programs have been used to 35:31 sterilize people to give their the World 35:32 Health Organization program did this 35:35 Mexico and in Kenya where they use that 35:38 H the hormone that causes women to 35:41 mascara included in tetanus shots 35:43 Network ox they're giving these guns six 35:46 seven shots they kind of hadn't hormone 35:48 you give a series of shots you can cause 35:51 them to no longer be able to 35:54 conceive or maintain in the pregnancy 35:55 causes a spontaneous abortion now they 35:59 got caught one of these how they get 36:01 caught is they were only going after 36:02 women aged girls 14 women 49 and we're 36:06 targeting males so the puzzle for 36:08 tetanus and those are they giving a 36:09 series of shots like 6 or 7 supposed to 36:11 you know one or two with tetanus and you 36:15 also have the history of the unit of 36:17 foundation going in the Puerto Rico 36:19 sterilizing 40% of Puerto Rican women in 36:22 the 1930s or 40s they did this yeah and 36:26 no one went to jail for this stuff I 36:28 mean I mean if I was going around taking 36:30 people's food with stuff that caused 36:32 them to become sterile or cause weather 36:35 or medical issues I think I might have 36:36 some legal problems with these people's 36:38 escapes get on by and with no problem 36:42 that she also shows you that the 36:43 super-sized behind is because there's no 36:45 legal ramification exactly that's a 36:47 great point if there was if this was 36:49 just either stupidity you know are just 36:52 a group that was breaking the law then 36:55 you have some kind of consequence 36:56 there'd be legal process that whole 36:57 federal episode which is swept under the 36:59 table yeah you know and so I mean it's a 37:03 question of yeah they're doing it to 37:05 some degree it's question what's good at 37:06 doing it and so it's not yet I mean so 37:08 the history here is a context which have 37:11 to be aware of when you talk about you 37:13 know using vaccines to sterilize or 37:15 someone alter the population to taint 37:18 poison a population that's a great way 37:20 to do it it's advocated you know you 37:23 know those who was it was Britain 37:25 Russell's you said two injunctions and 37:27 injections or something diet injunctions 37:29 and injections that we transform 37:32 humanity so this is how they think and 37:34 quit it the great pre Texas with the 37:36 whole ideology idolatry of vaccines 37:38 because we look at the history the 37:40 vaccine just a cursory examination 37:41 history shows that vaccines 37:44 did not get rid of disease in fact it's 37:46 spread disease it caused outbreaks 37:48 smallpox vaccine cause smallpox 37:50 outbreaks and the people have spread 37:54 measles or people who who are inoculated 37:57 who are now shedding you know impacting 38:02 everyone 38:02 oh yeah and the whole health revolution 38:04 in the 20th century wasn't medical 38:06 intervention was hygiene 38:08 public sanitation diet increasing 38:10 standards of living these things you 38:13 don't have to go into a third world 38:13 country and get inject them with 38:15 poisonous facts you know with its uh 38:18 with mercury and aluminum of tainted 38:20 vaccines clean the water give them good 38:22 food nutrition nutrition food with 38:26 nutrition and their health care you know 38:28 their health improve that amazing taking 38:31 down the doctors what if you talk yeah I 38:34 mean it's a lot cheaper too but no 38:37 they're dedicated to this vaccination 38:38 program the polio vaccine did he get rid 38:41 of polio we defined it Parral actually 38:44 paralysis is up multiple sclerosis has I 38:48 think increased like four times since 38:50 the nineteen in like 1980s so there's 38:53 paralysis that what's causing the 38:54 paralysis that is not calling it polio 38:56 anymore you know and polio itself was 38:59 probably a phenomenal to things like Oh 39:06 antibiotics DDT I mean DDT was just 39:12 everywhere and then you started having 39:14 this they had a name for it was like a 39:17 sudden sudden facil paralysis uh there 39:23 was some little term you known and then 39:26 you know Jonas Salk comes along with 39:29 this crap vaccine and the stuff starts 39:34 to go down because if so many people got 39:36 sick with DDT they banned it but the 39:40 this this this condition stayed baseline 39:46 to what it was before the DDT was 39:50 injected into everybody's body and then 39:54 it really never got better so the 39:57 vaccine was just complete waste of time 39:59 and yet they you know trumpeted like 40:03 well this was just you know saving 40:05 mankind or something when no one can 40:08 look at the statistics and and the you 40:11 know the evidence showing that DDT and 40:13 the other toxins we're starting to uh 40:15 you know have some effect and and think 40:18 that there wasn't some correlation 40:20 between that stuff 40:21 and everyone getting sick you know it's 40:24 like if you look at the guy who brought 40:28 the doctor who talked about the 60 40:31 percent reduction in sperm European and 40:35 he goes well he goes this is probably 40:39 related to the chemicals that are needed 40:42 for industry toxins okay yeah yeah but I 40:47 mean being poisoned and they give it a 40:49 shot like he says it's just so pissy 40:51 like well really we need this craft for 40:54 industry how come we can't have industry 40:56 without poisoning ourselves mean it's 40:58 just ridiculous this this we need the 41:03 people the public to realize that that 41:07 the government is not stupid they can 41:12 see that when a toxin is in the 41:15 environment and it was getting sick that 41:16 there's a relationship the fact that 41:18 they let this stuff go on the fact that 41:21 they a mandate vaccines it just shows 41:25 that there's absolute evil looks like it 41:28 is yeah right cannot me not that's 41:30 stupidity this is evil hmm you know they 41:33 know exactly when count in my in my 41:35 state Tim you cannot be in the public 41:38 school system now unless you go through 41:39 the vaccine program which is ridiculous 41:42 because if you're vaccinated you should 41:44 be okay yeah everyone else do back so 41:47 you just job but but you know in the end 41:49 I mean the number is just incredible 41:52 in the 60s in the 60s well you know I 41:56 think Mississippi has the highest 41:58 participation rate in vaccines made the 42:01 sickest children ah no oh but what but 42:07 getting back to Obamacare what do you 42:08 think Obamacare is going to do with the 42:10 vaccine I mean one see the to me what I 42:12 see is like they the oligarchs are 42:14 simply at the end of the day when the 42:17 dust settles Obamacare is just going to 42:19 create a lot more power to mandate yeah 42:22 for the government that's really what 42:24 we're dealing with here it may look like 42:26 it's stupidity it's not they know what 42:28 they're doing 42:28 we're heading toward where they have 42:30 more capacity to mandate and what 42:33 they're going to mandate 42:34 vaccines and you know other medicines 42:40 that make you stupid that damage your 42:42 DNA that that reduce your sperm count 42:45 death that's really what I think this is 42:47 all about well how they they do this 42:52 because a similar alarm line that they 42:54 caught the imagination or the trust of 42:56 the American people and they did that 42:57 through massive propaganda 42:59 by the Rockefeller Foundation and I took 43:02 over medical care they used their time 43:03 you know the publishing Empire to 43:06 promote the meaning of miracle drugs 43:08 these things the idea of men and white 43:11 coats coming to save us he also you had 43:16 using the regulatory process to Food 43:17 Drug Administration to harass and shut 43:20 down any competitors any alternative 43:22 treatments that's done and also uh you 43:26 know that ninety eight I think 98 43:28 percent of all funding for medical 43:29 journals is some pharmaceutical 43:31 companies yeah you think interview 43:35 getting back the interview what you did 43:36 with April those fantastic the way she 43:38 you really get her to outline you know 43:41 where the money is coming from and how 43:43 they how they actually set up the 43:44 training of doctors and one thing I 43:46 thought was various the idea was out the 43:50 reason they force the doctor is to work 43:52 100 hours a week as interns is basically 43:54 to break them intellectually so I so 43:57 that they basically don't have a you 44:01 know kind of a mind that's able to 44:02 contest and in question data yeah when 44:06 they get through with the program 44:08 they're just mind control robots that 44:11 will simply dispense pills and chemicals 44:14 as they're told to do you that's right 44:16 and it's interesting point the other 44:18 snake oil salesmen and of course the 44:20 Rockefellers father was an actual snake 44:22 oil salesman and their son you know 44:24 charge he senior pick up Leah picked it 44:28 up pick up you know the baton and 44:30 continues with that it was a new Joel or 44:32 something orally sold for help to cure 44:35 cancer and letting caught and cured 44:37 constipation or something just oil 44:39 Dickie boy it's hilarious I know that 44:42 because because then the Rockefeller 44:44 Foundation take over American medicine 44:46 and then if you look 44:48 you know just two generations back you 44:50 have literal snake oil salesman you know 44:53 in charge of the Rockefeller family I 44:55 mean it doesn't it doesn't really kind 44:57 of bode well for the citizenry right to 45:00 have this group in control of our 45:01 medical system and the Rockefellers and 45:03 their allied oligarchs literally took 45:06 over the system yeah I mean it was rest 45:09 at the max I think they started the 45:11 American Association of state and local 45:14 governments or so they got state 45:17 legislation passed and so pretty much 45:19 the American Medical Association's 45:20 cartel was enthroned as an establishment 45:24 medicine so they could stay from the 45:25 competition and it's a separate you know 45:30 it's like anything medicines you know 45:33 you it's you need some sort it's not you 45:36 need a combination of both he you know 45:38 integrated care but they're not trained 45:41 in in nutrition I believe there was one 45:44 case where there was a nutritionist 45:47 who's healing people and they got the 45:51 American medicine you hear guy says this 45:54 is a this guy his name was a Biel he was 45:59 an editor wrote a book about the drug 46:02 cartel back in the thirties or forties 46:05 but there was a case where this guy was 46:09 a you know alternative care is actually 46:11 eeling patient so he's a doctor and he 46:14 wrote Beale he wrote financed by tax 46:16 payers these drug trust persecutions 46:18 leave no stone unturned to destroy the 46:21 victim he is a small operator the 46:23 resulting attorneys fees and court costs 46:25 put him out of business in one case 46:27 doctor Adolphus who NC of Scranton 46:30 Pennsylvania who had stated that 46:31 vitamins he used natural ones were vital 46:34 to good health 46:34 radical huh was taken to court for 46:38 misbranding his product the American 46:40 Medical Association furnished ten 46:41 medicos who reversed all known medical 46:44 theories by testifying that vitamins are 46:46 not necessary for human the human body 46:50 confronted with vitamin abilities to the 46:52 contrary the medicals will have that one 46:54 by declaring that these standards 46:56 publications were outdated vitamins are 46:59 not necessary 47:00 a human body right the nutrients and 47:03 plants and animals that we eat we're 47:06 really weren't part of what evolution 47:08 was using right over the million years I 47:11 mean it's just it's completely insane 47:13 that's all that goes like or ignition 47:16 the immune system being completely 47:17 vulnerable so we need to be injected 47:19 with 30 vaccinations of the course of a 47:21 few years 47:23 babies should be given hepatitis B shot 47:26 yeah I mean exactly I mean just 47:29 brilliant squarely and then just I mean 47:31 all I can say is if you have a child or 47:35 are about to have one please do the 47:38 research into the dangers of vaccines I 47:41 mean there's a lot of good information 47:42 now and you know people just need to be 47:47 aware of it and try to organize to big 47:54 create support groups you know I I think 47:57 that you know this is a great time to 48:01 drop out of the california public school 48:03 system yeah just like what what if 48:07 people want you only reason you send 48:10 your child there is one it's free and 48:12 the other thing is because you can 48:13 socialize try to do your best to 48:15 organize homeschooling groups you know 48:18 yeah what is a great time dropout it's 48:20 like that what it's like someone someone 48:22 declared war now and showed up right 48:24 exactly 48:25 well citizen has to do it I mean you 48:27 could you just know that they're going 48:30 to have their mind-control puppets on 48:32 you know TV hammering away at the values 48:38 of the vaccines and how without 48:41 volunteer there'd be 40 million people 48:43 that was that no health services yeah I 48:47 mean maybe dying just be dying baby fly 48:51 wait right if Oh without Obamacare and 48:54 so um you know so it's just this these 48:58 are difficult times and it's these are 49:00 times that the citizen has to be just 49:03 you know better than the government well 49:05 I think we have to my people have so 49:08 much trust I mean thinking all the 49:10 propaganda over the years marcus webly 49:12 ER 49:14 heroic doctors white coats these things 49:16 so it's they're the experts we don't 49:18 know we don't know enough the question 49:20 we submit to their to their to the 49:23 treatment cuz they're the experts also 49:25 just acknowledging that all these 49:26 agencies and institutions that we look 49:29 for whether it's an educational security 49:32 thing like World Health Organization I'm 49:35 in FDA and they're just all just they're 49:38 just extension of oligarchic malevolence 49:41 because all the data traded by their 49:42 henchmen of course yeah every single one 49:44 of them I mean these if it's getting a 49:47 lot of publicity it's an agency that's 49:49 you know spouting medical wisdom you 49:52 know that that the oleg arks own it and 49:54 control that they control the media 49:55 they've got the puppet reporter asking 49:58 the the insane questions of a doctor 50:02 that's selling you know a snake oil and 50:05 and the public just sits there in rapt 50:07 attention nodding your head and rolls up 50:09 their sleeve for the next vaccination 50:11 you look at the AGC guy Bill Thompson 50:14 yeah what he admitted and that that pins 50:16 vindicates a Wakefield it'll close who 50:19 you just said that there may be a link 50:22 Neal author his license to practice 50:25 because he said there may be a link and 50:26 he took time at this example of a 50:28 conscientious medical doctor 50:30 professionally trained and there are 50:31 doctors that's like Susan Humphreys 50:32 Andrew Wakefield these guys these people 50:34 who they're professionally trained but 50:37 they've broken out of the system so 50:38 they've become the unities gadflies 50:41 rebels but they're good because they 50:43 have the expertise but you do need I'm 50:45 not rejecting the idea of expertise but 50:48 they they then will you know to expose 50:50 the corruption of the system but he took 50:53 the time he had these autistic kids are 50:56 banging their heads against against the 50:58 floor dry ruining the lives of their 51:00 families is it can really ruin the life 51:03 is it something more nothing more 51:05 stressful than that and he found out the 51:08 healthier these kids weren't coughing no 51:10 neurological damage they're in pain 51:13 and he did it culture and their gut and 51:15 found it there but I think it was the 51:17 measles virus and in their gut and I got 51:20 in there and it causes with a 51:21 perforation of the intestines gets them 51:24 to have a fact of diesel infection here 51:26 and tough and there 51:27 and causing ulcer at all serration yes 51:30 of their lining of their skin and they 51:31 had no way to express it because other 51:34 aspects of the vaccination and taken 51:36 away from of their speech capacity what 51:38 are you going to do except bang your 51:39 head on me I mean that you're going to 51:42 see that the banging of the head on the 51:44 floor is going to be a hundred percent 51:46 of the Obamacare patients in about ten 51:48 years yeah yeah and that's that's sort 51:50 of what they want 51:51 yeah everyone banging their head against 51:54 in frustration beg me hit again so 51:57 nothing will express anything but you 51:59 know you talked about how you know like 52:00 there's a need for expertise math I mean 52:05 I hate to say it no I'm just beyond that 52:08 I just think I don't give a damn what 52:11 these people say I don't trust any of 52:13 them oh they lost my confidence a moment 52:17 they said I did I and I believe me if it 52:19 has be shot like what that I had an 52:21 argument with a doctor a couple months 52:24 ago and I was yelling at I got angry and 52:26 I just I just said you know we were 52:28 talking about radiation and value of in 52:31 terms of chemotherapy and I just told 52:34 like to said just get the hell out you 52:36 know don't don't get me started I'm 52:38 gonna I'm gonna radiate you you know 52:41 because he didn't know anything he'd 52:43 simply he was parroting the statistics 52:46 that had been given him he had no 52:48 studies no a/c nothing to support it 52:52 he's supposed to be an expert right but 52:54 the problem is Tim is the experts do 52:58 know what they're doing 52:59 the problem is what they're doing is 53:01 evil yeah you see that's why you don't 53:03 want to be around expertise medical 53:05 expertise at this point it is just too 53:07 sick it is too evil it's too much 53:10 malevolent a lay person can never cut 53:12 through all this you know someone who 53:15 has studied it well and has a good graph 53:18 on the malevolence this would be from 53:20 like April boat yeah you but beyond that 53:23 you know in terms of like well you know 53:25 what are the statistics of the smallpox 53:28 vaccines and our you know what are the 53:31 actual molecular you know things that 53:33 are going I'm sorry I just I don't want 53:37 I don't want to hear it from these 53:39 people I don't want to hear it 53:41 and I don't want them to be near my body 53:44 I'm checking mercury in your muscle 53:46 tissue yeah is our archaea our 53:48 chemotherapy or radiation are there 53:51 surgery ideas for cancer just that with 53:54 them well with chemotherapy derived from 53:56 it was like a mustard gas explosion yeah 53:58 but what doesn't derive it is mustard 54:01 gas we need for all the first variations 54:03 and were simply mustard yet I think what 54:06 they were they the way they the research 54:08 they did was called trench warfare you 54:11 know yeah I'm not kidding this this is 54:14 now we've gotten enough sir they've been 54:16 mustard yes well these people they 54:17 notice that some of their tumors went 54:19 down and they go well this was great we 54:21 can use this it was never a cure for 54:25 anything 54:25 it was mustard gas and the other tumors 54:28 died but the cancer doesn't go away it 54:30 has nothing to do with the causality of 54:32 the cancer his cancer died symptom it's 54:34 a symptom right of course of pasilla 54:36 wrong with immune system and and so this 54:38 was out where it comes from if you look 54:40 at the deaths per hundred thousands of 54:44 cancer for the last hundred years it 54:47 basically it's exactly the same where we 54:49 started it went up when there was lucky 54:54 smoking and then went down when smoking 54:55 fell out of of but beyond that all of 54:58 this stuff all of the chemos and the 55:00 radiation than the surgery it just it's 55:03 still it's actually a lot of cancers are 55:06 just getting worse because they have 55:07 nothing to do with a lack of chemicals 55:11 in your body it's just the opposite they 55:13 have everything to do with the fact that 55:14 there are chemicals in your body yeah 55:16 you're you're Anders over our coccyx and 55:18 if you guys its oxidative stress the 55:21 mitochondria is not functioning properly 55:22 for some reason or another and all about 55:24 you you want to cleanse that so it gets 55:27 top energies just be functioning 55:30 properly but the problems all the 55:32 standard treatments which cost hundreds 55:34 of thousands of dollars a reason why 55:35 it's it's so expensive your honor that's 55:38 why why it continues it's so expensive 55:40 anyway um the the treatments they give 55:45 you cancer they destroy your immune 55:47 system I heard just to talk today 55:49 talking about how five percent of cancer 55:52 patients die from malnutrition because 55:54 I eat anything anymore from the 55:55 treatment so how do you fight off a 55:57 disease when you're starving yourself to 55:59 death you know it's interesting I had a 56:01 very good friend of mine he didn't have 56:03 a family and last year he came down with 56:06 lymphoma and I couldn't talk him out of 56:09 it he dried um chemo and radiation and 56:15 what was really quite tragic is that I 56:19 mean he's passed away the treatment 56:22 didn't work of course but um what was 56:26 really sad is that he basically have 56:29 what's called chemo brain now it's a 56:32 term that that's in existence you can 56:34 google it'll come up but they don't tell 56:37 you about this young college just 56:38 doesn't mention this when you come in 56:40 you know with your problem chemo brain 56:42 basically is a vastly reduced Neurology 56:49 he would come into the kitchen not know 56:51 why he'd come in he would lose the 56:54 ability to finish sentences you know his 56:57 brain was shot and the quality was life 56:59 was shot and this was from the second he 57:02 got done with the chemo and radiation 57:03 till when he passed away you know he had 57:06 no cancer supposedly for about six or 57:09 seven months and then came back and they 57:10 they said well we can give you more 57:13 chemo and radiation and but we don't 57:15 think it'll stop it and and these things 57:18 make you so sick but that he just said 57:21 no I don't want to do it he went in 57:22 hospice but the the fact is if he had 57:29 done nothing he wouldn't have died any 57:31 quicker I don't think but he would have 57:33 had his natural life preserved his mind 57:37 yeah would have been active and instead 57:41 he was half dead from the second he left 57:44 up to the oncology procedure mm-hm 57:47 and we sure we have quite a bill to 57:50 half-a-million-dollar yeah and so there 57:52 you and that's the problem of the 57:54 medical system itself I heard a guy 57:55 talking about how you know it's all 57:57 financialized yeah and all these 58:01 facilities you see you walk into that 58:02 new painful and there's been Vestas open 58:04 those bonds and be paid out on 58:06 and say they need returned customers 58:08 it's the same way that you know 58:10 Microsoft or Apple designs products that 58:14 you need features you must buy from them 58:17 and you have to return updates things 58:19 like that and there's even a planned 58:21 obsolescence involved in all these 58:22 products that we use well no the same 58:26 thing applies to us you know exactly we 58:29 are committed awful person 58:31 you need us sick well they know your 58:34 cancer they just treat it and supply 58:36 that that's but in on this going back to 58:39 Obamacare the idea of like we'd some 58:41 kind of triumph for human you know 58:47 aspirations that there would be 40 58:49 million people now that are more more of 58:51 them that are Allender the control or 58:53 have access to health system hey it's 58:58 the other way around there that means 59:00 there's 40 million people that don't 59:02 have the opportunity to get out of the 59:03 damage system right which now so many of 59:07 these people don't need to be in system 59:09 but that's why it would have been a 59:12 great time for them to really look into 59:14 other ways of getting medical treatment 59:17 if they need it but just because this is 59:19 really damaging this is what we got to 59:21 do we really honestly need as families 59:25 as individuals as communities if there's 59:28 any left is to sit down and say what the 59:31 hell are we going to do really what are 59:34 we going to do we cannot trust the damn 59:36 hospital system you cannot trust the AMA 59:39 you certainly can't trust the drug 59:41 companies what if you were being forced 59:43 to fork over 10 grand over a year 59:47 healthy friends until it towards me 59:49 higher quality food exactly it's like I 59:54 you brought up the Cystic that if we 59:56 would just invert the money spent on 59:59 sodas and vegetables that like you know 60:03 90% of the health products tell problems 60:05 would go away particularly if they were 60:07 healthy vegetables yeah yeah we're gonna 60:09 have garden you know local garden these 60:11 sort of things yeah and I'm not 60:13 addressing that the distant that are our 60:15 food supply has not been tainted but 60:17 it's been robbed at many of its future 60:19 so yes people people are walking around 60:22 malnourished that either they're fatter 60:24 than ever but they're malnourished 60:26 it's a funk you know I've got if you 60:28 come and visit me ever which I hope you 60:31 do as a vacation and this would be a 60:33 great family vacation okay please either 60:37 in Santa Barbara I'll take you to our 60:39 beach club and you can see all these 60:42 pictures from like when it was first 60:45 started in the 20s and 30s there's under 60:47 something they got pictures all over the 60:48 place and you look at these people 60:50 there's not an obese person in there 60:52 right and the pictures right there and 60:55 then right next to it is a like a window 60:58 out to the current crop of humanity 61:00 occupying the club I mean if it looks 61:04 like that I mean it looks like a fat 61:06 farm you know I mean every man has a 61:10 potbelly I mean it is and the kids are 61:13 fat everyone looks weak and and these 61:17 are upper middle class people right 61:19 whether they're in Casa la fenix 61:21 yeah and and the food is just all 61:24 chemical yeah so what do you do 61:29 I mean Obamacare I I would just hope 61:34 that that people not spend a lot of time 61:37 studying it or trying to you know change 61:40 it and just accept the fact that you 61:42 have to leave it and try to organize 61:45 among yourselves ways to get real health 61:51 care which is starts with property 61:53 nutrition and and a proper understanding 61:56 of the toxins in the environment you 61:58 know the other that you know given you 62:00 weren't baby 62:01 you told yet you need wellness visits 62:03 and they need to be poked and prodded 62:05 and stuck with needles and vaccines and 62:08 chemicals and this is what this is the 62:10 problem with the baby is not enough 62:11 chemicals in the body 62:13 not enough mercury not enough squalene 62:15 you got enough insect DNA that's always 62:18 something yet that I I knew I was 62:20 missing when I was growing up you know I 62:22 I got only I had more insect DNA to put 62:27 into my body so that I would have a 62:29 strong 62:30 reaction yeah you have a strong react 62:32 and get insect DNA and your body so what 62:35 it's time I mean all my kids each one 62:37 was was vaccinated less and less and 62:40 less until finally or last our six child 62:43 born at home we had a bid wife and never 62:48 been stuck with a needle once in his 62:49 life and congratulations yeah 3 December 62:52 nice he's healthy happy and and maybe 62:55 you have an influence on your community 62:57 that just spreads out to everyone who 63:00 has a clear mind that this is what has 63:03 to happen we have to do our own research 63:06 we have to try to share research I mean 63:09 you know you and I are doing our humble 63:10 best tonight to give people a heads up 63:14 that you're in a a murder machine not a 63:20 Moloch machine which sit which it is but 63:23 it's also a murder machine and you have 63:26 to try to protect yourself and your 63:27 family and you know it starts out 63:30 basically by trying to get rid of any 63:33 interest in the chemicals that they want 63:36 to put in your body II just got it and 63:39 this is where the line is say I'm sorry 63:41 but nothing not a single vaccine not a 63:45 single drug I'm not going to do any to 63:48 hell with you I will simply try to use 63:50 the natural nutrition the natural 63:53 vitamins the natural sunlight this is 63:56 where health is right and they'll say oh 64:00 well the kid has a specialty problem 64:03 many of them do you know ms at an early 64:06 age diabetes hmm I would first for all 64:10 of those things to him I try to find a 64:12 way in in the natural system to see if 64:16 you can you know create some healing 64:19 look it's an inflammatory reaction to 64:23 toxins or yeah damage and you released 64:26 information you reduce inflammation you 64:29 alleviate the symptom and you get better 64:32 it's again I believe I've mentioned 64:35 earlier not third third most cause of 64:39 death if you can call the death United 64:40 States today's medical hair 64:41 that's what submitted that's what I mean 64:44 they don't talk about the 64:45 pharmaceuticals things you don't 64:47 complain to Godiva not aware of they 64:49 blame them something else you know these 64:51 things so you know it's I mean that's a 64:55 quarter million people a year it's to 64:57 nine million people a decade and that's 64:59 that's a page huh and and that's and 65:02 then when you when you think about all 65:04 of the people who go into hospitals and 65:06 get infections I mean it I would really 65:09 wonder about the statistics for that 65:11 because I just know maybe I have my 65:13 friends that bad luck but I'm telling 65:15 there was one fatality there was one 65:18 person who has antibiotics rest of his 65:20 life there was one woman who got very 65:24 very sick and she was prenatal and that 65:27 based almost lost the kid so you know 65:31 and that's that's pretty small group I 65:33 don't know that many people that would 65:34 have gone into this place so I just have 65:37 I think it's the Setai think it's a much 65:39 worse than even letter I don't know I 65:41 mean but it sure is something that I 65:43 would be very wary oh that's it let my 65:46 wife to decide she wanted a child palm 65:49 block Harbor home Gareth because of the 65:51 Mercer thing she contracted a mild case 65:54 of it lessons from poverty hated not the 65:58 best affection one understand is the way 65:59 even the birthing method that they use 66:01 increases the trauma and the pain 66:03 tenfold 66:05 she had it at home and way they did it 66:08 she said it was discomforting a lot of 66:12 pressure but the pain wasn't there just 66:15 you know and she said the whole 66:16 experience is quicker it just wasn't as 66:19 traumatic and also by the way eleven 66:23 twelve thousand dollars in hospital have 66:25 a baby home it's a under three grand 66:28 yeah and you know something having a 66:34 birth with you know a loved one and 66:37 maybe you know a couple people know what 66:40 they're doing assisting her I would have 66:42 to say that's kind of like the natural 66:43 way that you know that that we are 66:47 designed to have children it is not 66:49 really a medical event 66:50 yeah evolution did have like an 66:53 obstetrician that wanted to 66:56 labor because his golf schedule was and 66:59 you know starting it and he hit the tee 67:01 time was at three o'clock yeah you know 67:03 so I mean it's just ridiculous they just 67:06 don't do this is what I'm saying they 67:07 have nothing to offer 67:08 they just don't at this point the system 67:11 is so collapsed in my opinion it is so 67:13 much just this cesspool of malevolence 67:16 and incompetence and just craziness that 67:19 they really have nothing to offer yeah I 67:22 am sure they'll have an occasional 67:24 miracle cure or reaction one of the 67:27 chemicals of course right so what you 67:30 know I mean if it just anyone can look 67:33 at America today and see that the health 67:36 of the population is worse is useless 67:38 Mullins you said they give you a miracle 67:40 Tory we call it American tour because of 67:41 the miracle you live actually after they 67:43 get it yeah why did I give it two 67:46 hundred people and one person is good 67:48 result and drop that person out saying 67:49 well here yeah work great for me look um 67:52 so they I'm thinking here I wonder we 67:55 yeah I came across this this is a 67:58 written by dr. Robert Higgs an economist 68:02 he's advocating a single PI single-payer 68:05 food insurance and isn't high time the 68:08 USA adopted single-payer food system 68:10 yeah sorry it isn't a high time that US 68:16 adopted a single-payer system of food 68:18 insurance after all nothing is more 68:21 important than food no one can survive 68:23 more than a few days without eating 68:25 leaving the provision of food to whims 68:27 decreases of the free market is simply a 68:29 recipe for malnutrition and starvation 68:31 and obviously the poor and the 68:32 minorities available access to food 68:34 under the horse-and-buggy market 68:36 arrangements on the proposed system the 68:38 government would establish a national 68:40 feeding system to which everyone would 68:42 be required to belong and make premium 68:44 payments everyone engaging in producing 68:47 and this distributing food would be 68:48 drafted into the system 68:49 whenever anyone got hungry he would 68:51 present himself to a licensed provider 68:53 who'd be authorized to provide 68:55 stipulated types of food the cost of 68:57 which would be billed to the NFS at the 68:59 prices the agency had established only 69:02 foods the NFS pledged sound to be 69:04 necessary for the individual eater will 69:07 be provided and a 69:08 to reimbursed the system would permit 69:10 great reductions in administrative cost 69:12 unnecessary duplication example given 75 69:15 different kinds of breakfast cereal 27 69:17 different kinds of yogurt etc would be 69:19 eliminated the poor at long last would 69:21 all get adequate food the rich would get 69:22 the same food thereby ensuring equity 69:25 and equal dignity at the dinner table 69:27 farm organizations would no longer be 69:29 required because all farmers would be 69:31 organizing the vast collective farms 69:33 we're going managers would ensure that 69:35 only the best method seeds fertilizers 69:37 and so forth were used according to the 69:39 strict government requirements based on 69:41 settled science would not this 69:43 arrangement be a huge improvement over 69:45 the anarchy of the present means of food 69:46 supply and distribution we could 69:48 possibly what could possibly go wrong 69:50 Robert Hicks oh that's very funny and it 69:54 obviously makes a good point about the 69:57 insanity of single-payer yeah I'm under 70:00 malevolence right I mean believe me it's 70:05 sort of like how I feel about people 70:08 arguing you know free markets versus 70:11 socialism you know or inciting Adam 70:14 Smith versus Karl Marx I mean that's a 70:17 dialectic yeah yeah I mean well it's 70:20 it's just these are just Freemasons with 70:22 sotry and their there hasn't been a free 70:25 market in hundreds of years nobody even 70:26 know what looks like if one of them came 70:29 down the street I mean we've been 70:30 controlled by central banks for so long 70:34 that we don't even recognize the fact 70:37 that that there is no free market 70:39 anywhere because when one group can 70:43 create credit and charge whatever they 70:44 want to their tribe and another price to 70:47 us 70:47 there's nothing ever ending everything 70:49 else is irrelevant that's yes there's no 70:53 and you don't have to give specific 70:54 orders to programs if you look around 70:57 you you just have to direct credit and 71:00 resources to a particular program or 71:02 agenda and it'll go that way you know 71:05 like you want to put if you want to 71:07 destroy notions of beauty or malevolent 71:10 oligarchy understory classical art you 71:13 just promote Modern Art with all the 71:14 money you control yeah you know and so 71:17 yeah my point is is that it doesn't 71:19 really matter 71:21 you know which side of that dialectic 71:24 you're on because it's a fake contest 71:26 it's like Trump or Hillary you know pick 71:29 your poison 71:29 yeah so so you know a single-payer at 71:35 you know free market no such thing 71:39 our problem is something else it isn't 71:42 it isn't the it the one of the big 71:46 problems is that we believe in this 71:48 fantasy matrix economic hologram that we 71:53 think we understand you know what's 71:54 going on and the fact is this is all 71:56 just central bank planning and you know 72:00 that we're being victims by so we've got 72:03 to fix our culture in our world well I 72:07 mean this is the point I make this is 72:09 inside I've recent years is that we're 72:12 not dealing with stupidity or 72:14 coincidence were dealing with conspiracy 72:16 and malevolence yeah and that's a that's 72:19 the first step again Jim that that mean 72:21 I mean it took me a long time very hard 72:23 for me to understand this but I get it 72:26 now and that is the problem and and so 72:28 it's at the root of all of our problems 72:31 Obamacare is a great example you know we 72:34 can sit there and argue you know like 72:36 well how do we get the insurance 72:37 companies to buy in or not legal i I 72:41 mean all of this stuff is just 72:44 completely insane I mean it it never 72:47 matters and this and that in that 72:49 dimension we're lately are arguing the 72:51 minimum wage it's yeah it's exactly I 72:54 mean literally work we have these 72:56 hologram issues you know our gay 72:59 marriage as should it be an Obamacare or 73:02 not you know I mean well yeah I mean you 73:04 can't take a bomber care and treat it 73:07 separately then from a gender 21 or from 73:10 you know what's the that goals 2000 73:15 what's the other education thing comment 73:17 or a comment or look at these are the 73:20 common good Baltimore the same it's all 73:22 the same thing yeah Obamacare is just 73:24 part of the mind control tell people who 73:27 are getting more health care course 73:29 recharging more money and and everything 73:32 we give you is poison but don't worry 73:34 about that 73:34 going to be feeling great here once you 73:36 eat the chemical you know candy that you 73:41 buy at 7-eleven yes the right to keep 73:44 your doctor so you saying man that white 73:46 kids isn't killing you for the list yeah 73:49 I'm fighting for my right to keep my my 73:52 you know doctor who is giving me 73:55 chemotherapy and vaccinations I'm dying 73:59 to have him yeah so it um you know we've 74:02 got Obamacare is um it's important 74:05 people need to pay attention I mean I 74:08 think obviously it's going to move it's 74:10 a political yeah a situation where 74:12 they're going to try to create more 74:13 power more concentration more mandatory 74:16 medicine that's where I think ready like 74:19 I said the goal of Obamacare is is a you 74:21 know an increase in autistic children 74:23 they want to get that number up to like 74:26 50 percent or something and then they'll 74:28 have an ideal work force and army and 74:31 then they normalize it because they call 74:32 it what do they call it a neurological 74:34 diversity or something or well they have 74:37 um they've got TV shows now that are 74:40 terrorizing you know the movie the 74:42 accountant with a yeah autistic 74:45 gentleman who is a virtual superhero 74:47 because it is autism yeah yeah so it's 74:50 you know like and so it you know and 74:53 it's racist to to be you know in 74:56 opposition to these individuals as 74:59 though the promotion and belief in you 75:03 know health and strength is is wrong 75:05 that's when I take it as a individual 75:09 who's been engineered just to be 75:12 dysfunctional whether psychologically 75:14 emotionally or physically and all of a 75:16 sudden because of the ideology of 75:18 victimization we can't look at the wider 75:23 invite the larger environmental systems 75:26 that created this individual this 75:28 unfortunate dividual we have to respect 75:30 who he is 75:30 which is exactly respond job and that's 75:34 their it 75:34 we can't criticize the system for 75:36 producing these people so whether broken 75:38 families producing you know I feel like 75:40 making them picking the the transvestite 75:43 are the autistic individual feel bad 75:45 yeah it's sensitive kid 75:47 we appreciated that yourself see this is 75:50 how you can see how they've set it up to 75:51 you you know they can push these agendas 75:54 just harder and harder because people 75:59 are intimidated because they put the 76:01 individual as a victim in front of you 76:03 and they say you cannot attack this 76:05 victim when when you complain about the 76:08 chemical system that produced it you 76:11 know you're a toxic culture the biotic 76:15 environment and the swimming strokes we 76:17 were swimming in it and yet it's it also 76:20 be focus on the individual victim that's 76:23 that's the focal point he's the focal 76:25 point but not the toxic culture attack 76:27 conveyor that's being produced by 76:29 industry by government by corporations 76:32 which is all controlled by a malevolent 76:35 secret society exactly soon well there 76:41 it is come Obamacare yep so okay well 76:46 okay I'll let you go then where are we 76:48 yeah we're hour 16 15 and 16 minutes all 76:52 right Tim well thanks so much that was 76:54 the best discussion about Obamacare I've 76:56 ever had 76:57 [Laughter] 76:58 hey what's up next week all right yeah 77:02 we'll talk next week we'll get them then 77:03 have a good week bye-bye 77:04 thank you sir 77:08 [Music] 77:31 the 77:37 [Music] 77:53 [Music] 78:02 [Music] 78:22 [Music] 78:45 [Music] 78:54 thank you 78:57 Oh 79:00 [Music]
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